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Tuesday, 22 October 2013

Are doctors paid well?


Are doctors paid well? 


Or are they normalised to the lack of a major motivator?



Young Bankers


A person known to me did an internship with a bank/financial services firm during the summer break at the end of the first year of a three year degree course. For those two months this bank intern was paid including allowances which works out pro-rata to about £21000 per annum. The hours were very long, typically from about 8.30 am to 10.30 pm the work was very demanding including working on live projects. The output was measured and critical developmental feedback was provided very frequently with no tick box exercises or euphemistic language. The allowances included dinner and taxi back home if the intern worked after 8 pm. On the first day the Managing Director of the firm set aside time to meet the intern before the start of the internship. Just before leaving the team gave the intern a farewell lunch at a Michelin starred restaurant.


All this for an intern with one year university education doing a summer job for eight weeks.


I know reliably that internships in banks after the second year in university is much more common and those youngsters are paid a little bit more.

The starting salary for investment banking and other higher profile areas in banking after a bachelors degree are $100000 to $150000 after bonuses. Starting salaries with an MBA ranges between $120000 to $220000. In the UK for a first year analyst in investment banking is £60000 without bonus (I learn that a few first year analysts make more than £100000 after bonuses). For other areas of banking the first year pay ranges from £40000 to £60000.


Young doctors


I looked at my junior doctors, house surgeons (now called Foundation Year One trainees) in the UK. After five to 6 years in medical school they are first responders to many critical situations that could involve risks to life and limb - their pay is £22636. They get no food from their hospitals even if they worked through their lunch/dinner breaks which many often do. They do not get any allowances. I am informed by quite a few house surgeons from many hospitals that they had not seen their consultants for up to five days and not seen their clinical directors for longer. When these house surgeons leave after four months of work (it used to be six months) it is not always they get a send off dinner and never in a Michelin star restaurant.


Hull York Medical School has recently required their senior medical students to do night duties which involves more than simply shadowing, possibly actual work such as clerking etc; these medical students are not paid for it. I am sure HYMS are not alone in this. I know of no medical student who worked in a hospital or GP practice doing supervised clinical work for which they got paid.


Some/Many India private medical college house surgeons see and treat patients without pay after having paid lakhs of rupees as capitation fees to enter medical school and then lakhs of rupees as course fees for 5 years.


Young doctors and young bankers, both need to have consistent excellent academic record and great CVs. They need to perform under high pressure situations within very narrow time constraints. The number of newly qualified doctors more or less matches the number of young graduates who enter the banking industry. Doctors work shorter hours, banking analysts do 100 hour weeks; however I have many years ago as a young doctor before the EWTR worked 80 hour weeks for many years and the pay was not equivalent to young graduate analysts in banking. Surely someone is bound to come up with the emotional argument of public money, please give it a rest for at least two reasons, junior doctors working with private healthcare providers do not get any higher pay and we constantly hear from the BBC and other public sector bosses about the need to pay themselves competitive rates when compared to private sector.


There is no question that doctors especially young doctors are not paid well. Add to that the longer very demanding education, the stress of dealing directly with individual members of the public's health in often resource constrained circumstances and the very restrictive regulatory atmosphere - the mix is quite a downer for most doctors. Having made a choice to do medicine most people switch to serving the public, relieving pain, noble profession type of thinking to validate their thinking and keep their sanity.


Any doctors in the rich lists?


Four out of 400 in the Forbes USA rich list have medical qualifications. Of these four only Gary Michelson ranked at 328 seems to have made his money from his practice as a doctor - he is an orthopaedic surgeon with 250 patents. Thomas Frist Jr is a medical doctor who made his money by running hospitals. Two other doctors made their billions by their involvement in pharma.


In the Forbes world rich list there is only one person who has made his billions through healthcare. Thomas Frist Jr of HCA  comes in at 262 in the world rich list, as already said he owns hospitals.


In the UK's list of billionaires there is no one who made their cash through healthcare (unless you include Branson who owns Virgin Health but I am not sure he made his billions from it).


Considering the fact that the need for healthcare is universal and eternal (as opposed to cola drinks or branded retailing being a non-essential option) it is very unnatural, strange that there are no doctors in the rich list.



Financial motivation is normal. Are doctors normalised to the abnormal?


Being a hands on doctor treating patients does not pay great.


So, not only a junior doctor is paid a fraction of what their banking colleagues are paid, they do not have a hope of every making it rich by treating patients as a clinician. Our reward systems do not seem to rate the direct saving of life, direct relief of pain and other direct clinical forms of patient contact very highly. There is no financial case for young highly intelligent, hard working high achievers to be doctors. Further, there are no future financial opportunities for doctors.


We may or may not want to or be able to remedy it. However when we look at the big picture and recognise that doctors are also normal human beings with normal emotions but have adjusted to the low finance reality there may be a certain element of hidden, difficult to explore, difficult to understand, motivational deficit which may be impossible to resolve. After all doctors may not be paid as much as bankers but they are paid much more than the rest of the working people; so any doctor who argues about not being paid well could be seen as greedy, unethical and unprofessional - so it is not the done thing. 

One major motivation in life, a normal wish that rewards are linked to effort, especially for the young does not exist for doctors. The medical profession will have this permanent cloud, this eternal chain to its feet in the form of direct financial or motivational levers which are unavailable. That will have its impact on society. The profession is now normalised to it hence unable to argue forcefully or think of innovative means to break through.


The medical profession is fighting the phenomenon of normalisation of the abnormal by confronting a large number of bad practices to improve patient safety (hand washing, routine catheterisation for surgery and many others come to mind). Will they be able to do the same for generally superior financial rewards for the whole of the profession?



©M HEMADRI



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Selected sources:

http://www.businessinsider.com/10-richest-people-in-medicine-2012-9?op=1&IR=T


http://www.forbes.com/sites/edwindurgy/2013/03/04/the-worlds-richest-billionaires-full-list-of-the-top-500/3/ http://www.forbes.com/billionaires/list/#page:1_sort:0_direction:asc_search:_filter:All%20industries_filter:United%20Kingdom_filter:All%20states

http://www.careers-in-finance.com/ibsal.htm

Saturday, 9 June 2012

High Mortality Hospitals Cannot Afford To Pay


In a previous post I showed that most high mortality trusts did not pay bank holiday extra rates/wages to staff for the Queen’s diamond jubilee bank holiday, while most low mortality trusts paid higher wages. 
 
A friend of mine who is an academic wrote back to me and said he could not resist doing a chi square on the numbers and found the p=0.01. I am no don to argue or explain stats but irrespective of statistical significance it is important to probe if there might be a deeper meaning or relevance. 
 
It is important to understand why the high mortality trusts did not pay higher holiday rates. Are they ‘mean spirited’ as the Unite Union portrayed them?

In my mind the underlying reasons are very simple and here it is:

QUALITY IS INVERSELY PROPORTIONAL TO COST 
 
And a high HSMR is broadly speaking poor quality care.

Financial reasons?

It might be something as simple as they had no money left to pay. Now that would be a perfectly reasonable assumption to make. Trusts get paid for activity, things like hernia repairs, aneurysm repairs, cardiac stenting, the kinds of things that you do to make patients get better. As far as I know the NHS tariff system through which the trusts get paid does not include things like deaths or complications. 

But in-hospital deaths are very costly; in-hospital complications are very costly. There is no mechanism for payment for that. So a hospital/trust which has high deaths and complications will obviously not have money to do anything else.

Well, it therefore might turn out that their inability to pay higher wages had no a financial reason at all; it may well be a by product of poor quality. High cost, deficits, losses are all a function of poor quality. 
 
If you pushed them they will come out with something like ‘in this financial climate we would like to channel all our sparse finances directly into patient care’ and you know what, they sure do; their patient care must cost excessive amounts of money due to higher rates of standardised mortality and higher complications.

Cultural reasons?

Perhaps they were unwilling to pay higher rates; management might not have felt the need to 'reward' staff who are unable to produce high quality measured in terms of mortality. Another reason might have been that the money might be better spent in a high mortality hospital in trying to reduce the mortality rather than paying more to staff when the law does not demand that you do so. These are a part of the mental make up and cultural reasons of management. They are right, well, partly right. It is also just possible that well rewarded staff might be motivated to engage in improvement. Works both ways but always difficult to decide which one is right for the given circumstances.

Finally, here is some speculation
But, why did some high mortality hospitals pay staff bank holiday wages? Surely the above arguments apply to them as well. Why did some low mortality hospitals not pay higher bank holiday wages? 
 
Now I am moving into speculation something which I try not to do too often. My gut feeling is that the high mortality hospitals who paid a higher wage are probably going to find reduced mortality soon or at the best they may continue to stay where they without slipping and getting any worse and the low mortality hospitals who did not pay may find their mortality going up or at the best they may stay where they are without getting any better
 
My speculation is an extension of my theory about money in hospitals, the trusts who are doing clinically well might have the spare cash to spend it on staff. If that was indeed the case, the staff deserve it.

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Sunday, 3 June 2012

Any links between bank holiday pay and mortality?


The Queen's diamond jubilee celebrations are going on right now. The government declared a 'bank holiday' on Tuesday 5 June 2012 (http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/DG_183806). Some of us will still be working over the celebration period to keep essential and emergency services going. This includes NHS staff. Individual NHS organisations can decide on whether they will treat this extra holiday as 'bank holiday' or 'public holiday'; they do not have to follow the government declaration of a 'bank holiday'. 'Bank holiday' attracts a higher rate of pay for those who work on that day along with some other terms advantageous to the employees. 'Public holiday' does not attract a higher rate of pay.

Unite Union surveyed their members and found that 113 NHS organisations were treating this as a 'public holiday' and hence no extra pay for staff. (http://www.unitetheunion.org/news__events/latest_news/_named-and-shamed__-_nhs_emplo.aspx) They have called this 'mean-spirited' and called their publication 'named and shamed'.

My interest includes hospital mortality and I wanted to find out what the high mortality hospitals and low mortality hospitals did in terms of the bank/public holiday pay arrangements. I took the list of 21 low mortality hospitals and 19 high mortality hospital from drFoster's hospital guide and then cross checked with Unite's named and shamed list. The findings are interesting to put it mildly.

My findings are:

7 OUT OF 21 LOW MORTALITY HOSPITALS ARE IN UNITE'S LIST (suggesting that they are not pay bank holiday rates)

14 OUT OF 21 LOW MORTALITY HOSPITALS ARE NOT IN UNITE'S LIST (suggesting that they are paying bank holiday rates)

14 OUT OF 19 HIGH MORTALITY HOSPITALS ARE IN UNITE'S LIST (suggesting that they are not paying bank holiday rates)

5 OUT OF 19 HIGH MORTALITY HOSPITALS NOT IN UNITE'S LIST (suggesting that they are paying bank holiday rates)

Low Mortality Hospitals (as per dr Foster)

Unite's named-and-shamed list

Barnet and Chase Farm Hospitals NHS Trust In Unites' list
Barts and the London NHS Trust In Unites' list
Cambridge University Hospitals NHS In Unites' list
Chelsea and Westminster Hospital NHS Not in Unite list
Epsom and St Helier University Hospitals Not in Unite list
Frimley Park Hospital NHS Foundation Trust Not in Unite list
Guy’s and St Thomas’ NHS Foundation Trust Not in Unite list
Imperial College Healthcare NHS Trust† Not in Unite list
King’s College Hospital NHS In Unites' list
Kingston Hospital NHS Trust† Not in Unite list
Newham University Hospital NHS Trust† Not in Unite list
North West London Hospitals NHS Trust Not in Unite list
Royal Devon and Exeter Not in Unite list
Royal Free Hampstead NHS Trust Not in Unite list
Sheffield Teaching Hospitals NHS In Unites' list
South London Healthcare NHS Trust† Not in Unite list
St George’s Healthcare NHS Trust Not in Unite list
The Whittington Hospital NHS Trust† In Unites' list
University College London Hospitals Not in Unite list
University Hospitals Bristol In Unites' list
West Suffolk Hospitals NHS Trust Not in Unite list


High mortality hospitals (as per dr Foster)

Unite's named-and-shamed list

Blackpool Teaching Hospitals NHS Not in Unite list
Buckinghamshire Healthcare NHS Trust Not in Unite list
Burton Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust Not in Unite list
Dartford and Gravesham NHS Trust In Unites' list
George Eliot Hospital NHS Trust Not in Unite list
Hull and East Yorkshire Hospitals NHS Trust In Unites' list
Isle of Wight NHS Primary Care Trust Not in Unite list
Medway NHS Foundation Trust In Unites' list
Mid Cheshire Hospitals In Unites' list
North Cumbria University Hospitals In Unites' list
Northampton General Hospital NHS Trust In Unites' list
Northern Lincolnshire and Goole Hospitals In Unites' list
Shrewsbury and Telford Hospital In Unites' list
The Dudley Group of Hospitals In Unites' list
The Royal Wolverhampton In Unites' list
United Lincolnshire Hospitals In Unites' list
University Hospitals of Morecambe Bay In Unites' list
Worcestershire Acute Hospitals In Unites' list
York Teaching Hospital In Unites' list

Caution: This is a write up based on information that is publicly available so far. This analysis may not be accurate. We can find out the correct situation only when either NHS employers or individual trusts tell us whether they have paid extra treating it as a bank holiday or not paid extra treating it as a public holiday. So further enquiry and analysis would be needed to validate this. What is presented here is a mere observation and does not suggest cause and effect.

On the basis of current information (this may change when we have accurate information) it seems like there may be attitudes and cultures of organisations, management and staff, playing a bigger part in mortality and morbidity than we previously have assumed.

Please let me know if there are any factual errors in the above and I am only too willing to correct them.
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